But John, Jane is so seductive isn’t she? Sense and Sensibility will suck you right in. I still remember what it felt like when The Hubs and me fell in love. BAM! I also remember the day he figured out that country pop slop had sold him a lie- I wasn’t his best friend. 😂. Well, duh! I’m your wife, and the mother of your children, I said. Cleaning up puke together because grandpa fed them too many Cheetos is what we were really made for. #BeautyFromPukePiles
We are on the same page indeed. I think the answer is no. Materialism without the transcendent must collapse. Like when people die. The person must be invited to something bigger. Your point on the finite is spot on...
Disgusting drivel. Makes me want to puke. To celebrate the degeneracy and disconnect of today's west is to celebrate the approaching transhumanist reign of the wicked one and the eternal death of the soul.
It sounds like that because the emphasis is on the icon in this article. But what I think is important is that enjoyment of the others company is the outcome of the struggle to sacrifice ego and "self". Marriage is a training ground for the decrease of ego. And in that arena, enjoyment of the other grows and grows. It's nice if you enjoy your partner before marriage, or during or after, and who doesn't want that? But marriage is meant to facilitate the enjoyment by encouraging self sacrifice. That is the Christian understanding of it anyway. One of the problems with my article is that there is a deep variety in the old world as per "marriage". In many ways I am describing old world CHRISTIAN marriage when I say "old world marriage". And that sacrament doesn't demand "enjoyment of the other" as a pre-requisite for union. To the contrary, "enjoyment of the other" is an outcome of Christian marriage. And should it be that good feelings exist to begin with, if marriage is "done" well, those good feelings will only deepen. I think... or it is such in my life and the life of those who testify in the tradition I am calling Christian (Orthodoxy). I hope that makes sense...
I don't think there was anything in the post that mentioned married people enjoying each other or not. Anyone who has been married for longer than 5 minutes (I've been married for 23 years) will have moments of liking and not liking their spouse, moments of enjoyment and the lack of it. He seems to be trying to see past and get to the history of why we ONLY see it as that now in the "Light Countries."
I just spend a few days in Brazil. It’s amazing how they import everything from the US nowadays--not only products, movies, and music, but also religion, politics, ideology. My father is from Brazil, I was born there and have a wonderful family. Our family is descendant of (northern) Italian immigrants, living in what is increasingly an urban context. Therefore “white” and urban. At 16 I moved to the US, and have lived here for 16 years. It’s astounding to me how unaware Brazilians seem of how much a caricature of American types they have become. And therefore, of all the new moral and social norms.
"The computing power of the rational mind is on the move, justifying every emotion and desire and belly-born want."
Very true.
This reminds me of a saying by the ever-quotable Oscar Wilde: "Women represent the triumph of matter over mind, just as men represent the triumph of mind over morals."
Indeed!
But John, Jane is so seductive isn’t she? Sense and Sensibility will suck you right in. I still remember what it felt like when The Hubs and me fell in love. BAM! I also remember the day he figured out that country pop slop had sold him a lie- I wasn’t his best friend. 😂. Well, duh! I’m your wife, and the mother of your children, I said. Cleaning up puke together because grandpa fed them too many Cheetos is what we were really made for. #BeautyFromPukePiles
The issue that arises is that the god of the mind is finite. Can a world built on a foundation of pure individualism ultimately sustain itself?
We are on the same page indeed. I think the answer is no. Materialism without the transcendent must collapse. Like when people die. The person must be invited to something bigger. Your point on the finite is spot on...
Disgusting drivel. Makes me want to puke. To celebrate the degeneracy and disconnect of today's west is to celebrate the approaching transhumanist reign of the wicked one and the eternal death of the soul.
So please tell us how you think marriage should work? It sounds to me like you condemn married people actually enjoying each others company?
It sounds like that because the emphasis is on the icon in this article. But what I think is important is that enjoyment of the others company is the outcome of the struggle to sacrifice ego and "self". Marriage is a training ground for the decrease of ego. And in that arena, enjoyment of the other grows and grows. It's nice if you enjoy your partner before marriage, or during or after, and who doesn't want that? But marriage is meant to facilitate the enjoyment by encouraging self sacrifice. That is the Christian understanding of it anyway. One of the problems with my article is that there is a deep variety in the old world as per "marriage". In many ways I am describing old world CHRISTIAN marriage when I say "old world marriage". And that sacrament doesn't demand "enjoyment of the other" as a pre-requisite for union. To the contrary, "enjoyment of the other" is an outcome of Christian marriage. And should it be that good feelings exist to begin with, if marriage is "done" well, those good feelings will only deepen. I think... or it is such in my life and the life of those who testify in the tradition I am calling Christian (Orthodoxy). I hope that makes sense...
I don't think there was anything in the post that mentioned married people enjoying each other or not. Anyone who has been married for longer than 5 minutes (I've been married for 23 years) will have moments of liking and not liking their spouse, moments of enjoyment and the lack of it. He seems to be trying to see past and get to the history of why we ONLY see it as that now in the "Light Countries."
I just spend a few days in Brazil. It’s amazing how they import everything from the US nowadays--not only products, movies, and music, but also religion, politics, ideology. My father is from Brazil, I was born there and have a wonderful family. Our family is descendant of (northern) Italian immigrants, living in what is increasingly an urban context. Therefore “white” and urban. At 16 I moved to the US, and have lived here for 16 years. It’s astounding to me how unaware Brazilians seem of how much a caricature of American types they have become. And therefore, of all the new moral and social norms.
"The computing power of the rational mind is on the move, justifying every emotion and desire and belly-born want."
Very true.
This reminds me of a saying by the ever-quotable Oscar Wilde: "Women represent the triumph of matter over mind, just as men represent the triumph of mind over morals."