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Not sure how that is the idea, but not really. In fact, it's probably the single best indicator of happiness as per history. But the joy comes from the idea of sacrificing self. Does sacrificing self make people miserable? If it does... I think you might be right!

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I like this, John. It's a nice complement to your videos where I can see your face and hear your voice, but this allows me to chew on what you've said a bit more. Good stuff!

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Jul 31, 2023·edited Jul 31, 2023

I think it’s both. I got married during a massive depression. No love. My only thought was duty and that love was fake. Just a feeling. The marriage was just work. I’ve been depressed the entire marriage. I feel like there should be a balance. I went totally against my body or what I was able to be attracted to. Over the years I feel more and more fake. I agree with you intellectually but I’ve been giving sobbing confessions to multiple priests and monks for having no love for my wife from the beginning. I just feel more and more fake. It makes me feel so dysphoric towards my entire life. I love our kids but my relationship with my wife makes me feel so no like myself or anything good. I feel so fake any time I say I love you. If I pretend she is just a person, everything is fine. The only thing we lack is this kind of love you talk about. I chased it when I was younger and so wrote it off as useless illusion.

I feel what you are saying is important AND the Eros is also important, which isn’t just sexual. It’s how your mind and thoughts mix. It’s everything, not just passion or what ever. I find people who have that with their spouse and sacrifice for that love tend to write it off, not knowing it’s what they are standing on.

Passion is supposed to be in the right place, not written off as just a temptation.

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So you think marriage should make people miserable?

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